Yes I was also quite dissapointed to not see the Top 8 quarters. I'll be really ****** if they're not available for download after. Randy and BDM if you're reading this, Wizard's blew it this year round. Being a Type 1 and Legacy player primarily, I was saddened by the lack of legacy coverage, they didn't even attempt to do it justice. Its an awesome format, and has ridiculous potential, but they didn't even try. The crappy coverage only worsened when we missed the quarter's. Bad Job Wizard's.

Yes I was also quite dissapointed to not see the Top 8 quarters. I'll be really ****** if they're not available for download after. Randy and BDM if you're reading this, Wizard's blew it this year round. Being a Type 1 and Legacy player primarily, I was saddened by the lack of legacy coverage, they didn't even attempt to do it justice. Its an awesome format, and has ridiculous potential, but they didn't even try. The crappy coverage only worsened when we missed the quarter's. Bad Job Wizard's.

Yeah, all that, bad job WoTC

Finally, the SEMIS!!

I just want Nassif OR Chapin to Win. I ordered my foiled out version of the deck Thursday Night!

The dragon storm deck isn't that great. Its only doing anything because no one was suspecting it. After like a month it won't work at all anymore.

if you have 2 swath's in play does grapeshot do 5?

all right the worlds 2007

I just want Nassif OR Chapin to Win. I ordered my foiled out version of the deck Thursday Night!

Seems like an odd waste of money seeing as how the deck is getting UBER hated out by ALL decks in like all tournaments now.

Even chapin thinks the deck will be tier 2 after the tournament.

I'm torn myself, on the one hand, Nassif is bar none my favourite pro, and he should've won last year, but on the other hand, Chapin plays type one, and well at that, so I'm cool with either.

Where? i only see quicktime as an option.
This is interesting, because I only see WMP as an option on this page: http://bhampushtool1.hardlines.com/webcast/streams.html

Someone posted both the links earlier, but the QT link didn't work for me. It said "not found." Anyway, the direct link to the WMP stream that works for me is:
mms://a694.l1897922693.c18979.g.lm.akamaistrea m.net/D/694/18979/v0001/reflector:22693

(note the space that gets inserted in the middle by the forums... you need to remove that.)

Mark Young highlighted this new Dragonstorm deck a week or two after GP Daytona Beach. The deck split in the finals of a "Win a Car" qualifier tournament. http://www.starcitygames.com/php/news/article/15050.html
Just thought you might like to know =)

yep

This is interesting, because I only see WMP as an option on this page: http://bhampushtool1.hardlines.com/webcast/streams.html

Someone posted both the links earlier, but the QT link didn't work for me. It said "not found." Anyway, the direct link to the WMP stream that works for me is:
mms://a694.l1897922693.c18979.g.lm.akamaistrea m.net/D/694/18979/v0001/reflector:22693

(note the space that gets inserted in the middle by the forums... you need to remove that.)

Depends on your browser apparently. I switched from firefox to IE and all of a sudden i got both links.

if you have 2 swath's in play does grapeshot do 5?

Each Grapeshot copy will deal 5, correct.

While it will be hated out, foiling it is still pretty cheap, and the only cards that cost $$ to foil are still good cards, i.e. hellkite, incinerate, rift bolt. Even at that, hellkite is the only semi-expensive foil, the rest are pretty cheap.

As someone who can speak hebrew, it hurts ti hear Randy just butcher Uri's name. Its somthing like OOri not eri... just a heads up

(note the space that gets inserted in the middle by the forums... you need to remove that.)

Well, I'm an idiot. That's why it wouldn't work for me. Thanks.

For the love of Teferi, please explain why we (the people) got no quarterfinals coverage.

I think the Doran vs. Mannequin matchup is much more interesting, but Dragonstorm will probably finish very quickly, so we'll get to see it before their match ends.

And what do you mean, no one was expecting Dragonstorm? Check my above post!

Depends on your browser apparently. I switched from firefox to IE and all of a sudden i got both links.I can't run IE on my system (barring WINE), and changing my browser's user-agent to IE doesn't seem to let me get that link either. If the QT link is different from rtsp://a1140.l1897921139.c18979.g.lq.akamaistre am.net/D/1140/18979/v0001/reflector:21139, would you mind pasting it here?

Is Chapin trying to channel Finkel from Belgium with the shirt and tie?

A few things...

1. I'm extremely disappointed and upset that they didn't webcast the quarterfinals, especially considering that they obviously never planned on airing them. What the heck was Wizards thinking?

2. I really enjoy watching 1 on 1 matches, but I can't stand watching 2hg matches. On the webcast of PT: San Diego, I enjoyed watching the final draft, but I disliked watching the matches because there was too much going on to follow it. Now with Worlds, they didn't broadcast the draft, the only part of 2hg I like watching, and then they broadcast the matches, which I now know are even worse to watch when you have no idea what cards they drafted.

3. Not that it matters considering how unappealing the 2hg matches are to watch, but the video and audio quality of the streaming video for the 2hg matches was absolutely awful compared to the AV quality in the past. Considering the event is in New York, why the heck is there a problem with this? If this is because more people are watching this in the USA since the webcast isn't in the middle of the night, why didn't Wizards consider this beforehand and increase capacity? On the bright side, since they've come back after the conclusion of 2hg, and now they're talking, the video and audio stream is much better - hopefully this quality is maintained once they start playing.

Wizards has been doing these webcasts long enough that these kind of basic mistakes shouldn't be happening. Hopefully they not only get their act together for future webcasts, but also find some way to make it up to us for the horrendous coverage so far today.

Holy crap, that was sweet.

Dragonstorms been around for a long time. what do you think will be the (NEW) Deck that will be sticking around as long as Dragonstorm has been and as Devastating?

I like how that guy shuffles his whole sideboard into his deck then sorts it out.

Randy, Brian, please try to keep us informed about the other matchup as well!

Gabe with Pithing Needle from the SB FTW!!!11!!1!!

Deflorskin ftw

Does anyone else have any experience with thoses sleves that their using?

I purchased some the other day and they seem to "fluff" to the front like an according.

I placed them under a book for a week and it didn't fix anything... :(

Nassif has Bogardan Hellkite in his hand.

You don't miss much do you...

Wow. DStorm Mirror, a deck that will be worthless in less than a week. And is boring to watch.

Can we just watch the other one please?

It will be a surprise if DragonStorm doesn't win Worlds again:)

This matchup is boring.... they should be showing the other one

I don't think Dstorm will be hot for that long.

I would like to see alittle of the other match too..

"I don't think Dstorm will be hot for that long."


That's what people were saying last year.

No... The deck is not that good in an expected meta.. I played in the master on XXXXXXXX yesterday and all the storm decks lost in the first two rounds.... The deck is not that great once decks mold to it.

My god, that other game sounds way more interesting.... switch over guys com'on....

Yes i agree.... This matchup is horrible... Draw dependant and who is on the play

Sound?

Why would Gab keep that hand? There's no play from it at all.

Dragon Storm wasn't hot for that long after worlds last year. It was so great, why didn't it win anything else...

Besides, as with all storm decks, once you go off, if your opponet can find a way to live the turn you'll have burnt out completly.

they're even talking about the other match being better....

Sigh, WHY RANDY ARE YOU WATCHING THIS MATCHUP :( :(

Because win or lose, this match will be funny and ironic for Gab.

I'd say they're watching it because they knew it would end quickly, one way or another, and then they could focus on the other match.

That, and Nassif/Chapin has a lot more star power involved than Otsuka/Peleg.

It'll be over soon (especially with Nassif mulling into oblivion), so we'll be able to watch the other game. Just be patient!

Wow. To 4.

Mulliaganing is the hardest of Magic.

Anyone else not have sound!?

Yeah, I guess this is just about popularity... But I'd much rather see the other match, at least while their mulligianing.... This is taking them forever, especialy the way the bald guys reshuffles his entire deck...

ouch 4 cards this match is over

Nassif is gonna mulligan into trips Bloom and a Knoll.

Mull to 4 in d-storm mirror.... harsh...

Chapin FTW. Nassiff just dropped this game. Bad hands.

Cheers. YAY.

Looks like Gabe might be out in the semis again. Mulligan to 4 is really hard to come back from. This deck especially seems to be vulnerable with all the pieces it needs.

This match might acctualy be interesting, that is if Gab pulls it off from 4...

¡Vamos Gabriel! Tú puedes...

Go Go Gadget Gab!

however, all of those mulligans were the right plays.

I wonder if Gabriel Nassif is regretting playing that mountain last turn...

Síiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. ¡Vamos Gabri!

OMG!!!!! hahahahahaha This is awesome.

THAT WAS !!!!!

AWESOME!

Yeah, this game is alot more interesting than the first ones...

Is that a MTGO chat room for the watchers? I suggest "/join worlds" if not :)

OMG! Impressive

most insane moment ever.

Wow. As a math major, that was beautiful. All you Storm-haters out there have to admit that was entertaining.

That was AMAZING!!! I couldn't help but cheer when he dropped the last rite of flame.

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

Having sound would be nice.

And you people thought this game was boring! Bring it on home, Gab.

Jeez, 2 Hellkites and a Dstorm.

wow nassif

Talk about random lucky.

MOVE OVER CRAIG JONES. THIS IS GABRIEL NASSIF'S TOURNAMENT.

One of the best games in Pro Tour history right there.

THAT WAS INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This will be one helluva an article from Pat Chapin on StarCity.

OMFG gabe is my hero!

NOW THAT"S A GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow. That was absolutely amazing.

Wow. I can't believe that just happened. He needed to NEVER hit the Ignite Memories in Nassif's hand, and the odds of that alone were 32/243, which is roughly 1/8 to start. Then, of course at the end, he was 1/9 to hit Rite of Flame twice. Once that missed, the win was academic.

I bet you guys are now glad that they were watching that match.

That was unbelievably awesome, wow how amazing will this be if he wins this match

THAT was ******* awesome.

On of the biggest LUCKSACKS EVER, that was so stupid, Chapin had game set and match, that's so dumb, NASSIF is good cuz he sacks better then anyone else.

omg i was wrong i admit it go gab win it all you deserve it after that and last year

screw skill luck X5
Paris, Paris, Paris, some how NEVER hit the ignite memories, AND hit rite of flame twice, AND opponent having ONLY 8+ cards from an ignite.

The Rites heard 'round the world.

I really hope chapin doesn't turn 1 kill now, that would ruin the moment

I went to a Magic game and a poker game broke out.

Nassif hitting runner-runner to survive...if he wins it all, that'll be the Lightning Helix move of this Worlds tournament. And dare I say, it trumps the Lightning Helix moment.

On of the biggest LUCKSACKS EVER, that was so stupid, Chapin had game set and match, that's so dumb, NASSIF is good cuz he sacks better then anyone else.

Shut up.

That is the nature and the danger of playing Ignite Memories.

i can garauntee you that you wouldn't have gone down to 4 in that situation.....

On of the biggest LUCKSACKS EVER, that was so stupid, Chapin had game set and match, that's so dumb, NASSIF is good cuz he sacks better then anyone else.

i still demand to know why wizards never planed to show the quarter finals though.

i think that was better than the helix. the odds of that were insane

The only thing that makes Jone's Lightning Helix better is that it was the rubber game of the match.

Everyone get on MODO and /join worlds

omg, trip blooms.....

Wow, this game is complete ********, hats off to Nassif for sacking like none other.

How can you guys complain about Nassif being a lucksack when he was forced to mulligan to FOUR?! And, he had the presence of mind to not settle for bad six or five-carder.

That unluckiness counters the luckiness on Ignite Memories in my opinion.

TRIPLE LOTUS??????????? on a firsts turn drop?

By my calculations:

Nassif's chance of surviving the ignite for 5: 10.7%

Nassif's chance of surviving the ignite for 5 had he chosen to keep a mountain in hand: 38.3%

I think Nassif may have gotten lucky to survive a mistake (he didn't need that extra mana to go off, did he?)

Ignite Memories for 4 will do an average of 20, but does he want to try that again?

GO FOR IT CHAPIN!

Favored for the win again for the innovator

It's all over now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YAWS YAWS YAWS YAWS YAWS YAWS YAWS YAWS YAWS YAWS!

nassif got lucky once, but chapin deserved that

Those last 2 games were awesome.

Chapin for the Win!!!!!!!!!!

did nassif or someone drop the F bomb? I thought I heard it

That was not expected.

That would be Nassif.

did nassif or someone drop the F bomb? I thought I heard it

Yes he did, and frankly....I probably would have said the same thing.

The math behind Gabe's incredible odds.

If he hits an Ignite he loses so the odds he doesnt hit one is...

(2/3)^5 or about 13%

But he also has to hit less than 4 grapeshots so....

Chances of 5 grapshots
(1/3)^5=almost 0 disregarded

Chance of 4 grapeshots
5*(2/3)^4*(1/3)= 31% so the chance that he doesnt hit it is 69%

Overall probability of surviving the Ignite Memories for 5 is .69*.13= 9%

WOW

Once again, Gab gets greedy, and it costs him the Finals in Worlds... against D-storm. That's got to hurt.

Disaster =/

If Nassif holds the land and the rift bolt there, doesn't Pat just go with the Ancient Grude plan? Without the land, if Nassif wants to flash out the Hellkite he has to use all 3 Lotus Blooms, and then Pat can still kill it with the damage in his hand.

Enhorabuena Gabriel. Pese a que eres el tío más desagradable de todos los pros que he conocido creo que merecías el título mundial. Ha sido una lástima.

Gracias por los buenos ratos que nos has hecho pasar.

Gab didn't really screw up that bad assuming he doesn't suspend rift bold he still goes upto only 11 mana and can't dragonstorm for more then 3 dragons. As Chapin still had another shock in hand he could only take 13 as he couldn't win that turn. So yes the ignite gets slightly worse but its still largely good enough regardless.

Ootsuka looks like he's been on a week-long bender.

Awesome, Jon Loucks got a shout out. :)

My calculations for the game 5 ignite:

Gabriel Nassif's odds of survival in the final ignite on game 5: 29.7&
his odds (if he had kept just the mountain): 46.9%
his odds (if he had kept both the mountain and the rift bolt): 50%

So perhaps the best play would have been to suspend the rift bolt (to storm for 4) and keep the mountain.

lol...the light? someone call maintenance

You know what....here's the real calculations to the Ignite Memories math from Chapin-Nassif.

It's real simple.

50-50

Either Memories hits or it dosen't.

Case closed. Enough about the odds already. :looloo:

I think Nassif's main issue in game 5 was he got too cocky. He played low/no-mana cards knowing Chapin has Ignite Memories in the deck, then told him he had a Dragonstorm in his hand. It might have been better to make Chapin sweat for a bit.

But still, it was a great match, especially the runner-runner Rite of Flame to stay alive in game 4.

Shame about Nassif, I'm not sure telling Chapin he was holding Dragonstorm helped his cause. That game 4 was awesome though.

Could Otsuka have guessed Peleg had the Cloudthresher?

It was sweet, and I love chapin because he plays type one, but man, I really wanted Nassif to get his world's win. He really deserves it, I'd rank him #3 all time personally. I think he's better than Kenji and Maher. That being said I'd love for Chapin to take it now, but the matchup is terrible for him post board. He needs to get luckier than missing ignite 5 times straight to win it.

There's one thing for sure.....if Pat Chapin wins the World Championship, Mike Flores will find a way to take some credit for it. :tongue:


Randy, BDM---still better than Chapin-Nassif: Pro Tour Los Angeles (the last one), Antoine Ruel Force Spike-d Kenji Tsumura's Psychatog.

Shame about Nassif, I'm not sure telling Chapin he was holding Dragonstorm helped his cause. That game 4 was awesome though.

Could Otsuka have guessed Peleg had the Cloudthresher?

Probably not. Ootsuka knew Peleg had to topdeck, and Peleg only has the two Cloudthreshers to begin with.

Wasn't Peleg at 7 when he played the Cloudthresher? Why did Otsuka concede?

Last year, Nassif made a play that guaranteed him the win if Mihara wasn't able to Dragonstorm in his one turn window.
This year, Nassif's suspending of Rift bolt would've enabled him to Bolt, Shock, and Hellkite for exactly 20. Without suspending the bolt, he gives Chapin an extra turn to kill him. Although playing the Mountain had zero effect on the game.
I believe that, as Nassif could've been in fear of Chapin going off at any time, suspending the Rift Bolt was probably the right play. It makes him slightly more vulnerable to Ignite Memories, as he would have 20 CMC on 5 cards instead of 23 CMC on 6, but that's only a difference of .833 damage on average (3.833 damage per copy vs. 4 damage per copy). That difference in damage is certainly worth guaranteeing Nassif the win a turn earlier, imo. And if he suspects that Chapin has Ancient Grudge, it speeds up his expected win after flashing out a Hellkite by a full Turn.
All in all, Nassif seems to have made two plays based on trying to win a turn earlier than combo. Last year, he had perfect information, and although he lost to a top deck, by making the correct play he wouldn't have been at all vulnerable to a loss. This year, he again increased his clock by a full turn, but the difference is that he was not aware of when Pat would be able to win. Instead of Ignite memories, Chapin easily could've had Dragonstorm + Rite of Flame for the immediate win. Nassif denied him an extra draw step, and that was the correct play.

Wasn't Peleg at 7 when he played the Cloudthresher? Why did Otsuka concede?

Ootsuka was at nine. He took two from Cloudthresher. Ootsuka had no way to stop Peleg from dealing 7 with the 'Thresher.

Here's an article/pictures of Eric Taylor eating his hat.

http://www.wizards.com/sideboard/article.asp?x=PTSD02/425edthat

3-1 paleg

that was a good one.

Other noteables imo.

Maher-Davis chicago
Long-Justice paris
Ruel-Ho osaka

But if Cloudthresher was evoked, how could he swing for seven with it? Or if he played Cloudthresher straight-up wouldn't Peleg die to the seven damage comes into play effect?

There is still no explanation as to why we didn't get to see the quarterfinals.

I'm not as ticked about now as I was before Chapin-Nassif, but it still bugs me.

If they had staggered the semi-finals they could have partially redeemed themselves for not broadcasting the quarterfinals. With all the mistakes they've made with today's webcast I shouldn't be surprised that they didn't, but I'm still disappointed by it. I think they should always stagger the semi-finals, unless maybe the quarterfinals are ridiculously lengthy, but considering they didn't even broadcast the quarterfinals today, there's no reason they shouldn't have done that. That way we would have seen all the final 4 players and their decks in action, and no one would be upset that they didn't show the match they wanted to see.

But if Cloudthresher was evoked, how could he swing for seven with it? Or if he played Cloudthresher straight-up wouldn't Peleg die to the seven damage comes into play effect?

First, Cloudthresher wasn't evoked, it was straight up played.

Second, RTFC. Cloudthresher

Cloudthresher was flashed in while Ootsuka was tapped out. He would've swung on his next turn.

Riftsweeper is a big factor but only to deal with Bloom or Rift Bolts. Spinerock Knoll is still the element of suprise. I say game one depends if Uri doesn't draw Doran Turn 2. I think Chapin can win it.

If wizards has cameras on multiple tables, what's to stop them from recording both Semi-Finals? I'd still watch one without commentary.

LOLOLOL GJ randy for giving away chapin's hand! :D

If Chapin plans on using Lotus Blooms to get enough mana for Dragonstorm, he can be disrupted by both Thoughtseize and Riftsweeper.
Spinerock Knoll, however, cannot be affected by either of those cards. Chapin needs to just unload burn into a big Grapeshot turn or a Spinerock Knoll powered Dragonstorm.

LOLOLOL GJ randy for giving away chapin's hand! :D

Luckily for Chapin, the only card that got broadcasted was the Bloom.

If Chapin plans on using Lotus Blooms to get enough mana for Dragonstorm, he can be disrupted by both Thoughtseize and Riftsweeper.
Spinerock Knoll, however, cannot be affected by either of those cards. Chapin needs to just unload burn into a big Grapeshot turn or a Spinerock Knoll powered Dragonstorm.

that only works if he can get one of those under a knoll thhough...

Chapin's hand seems pretty bad.

Cloudthresher trumps the single Hellkite plan, I think...

Garruk's Ultimate is 4!

Garruk's Ultimate is 4!
yes, but you want it to stick around after.

You know...by the echos I keep hearing, I'm not entirely sure Chapin and Peleg still can't hear Randy and BDM.

He's not annoucing to the floor is he? When commentating? Sounds like it!
PS: MTGO, /join worlds

Maybe if Randy was reading the forums he'd know about Garruk's ultimate...

It still costs 4.

i don't think that's echos, that's just randy talking in the background to someone.

Yeah, the echo is real annoying and it's a bit embarrassing that Randy doesn't know that. I mean, he's in the booth. He should know a certain amount.

it happens almost every PT. it's kinda sad. i thought they read these things?

CHAPIN CONFIRMED! THEY CAN HEAR!!!!!

WTF?!?!? He doesn't take pain from horizon canopy?!?!

Pat may be my new hero.

It's been like that for like, 5 minutes... how did no one on the floor catch that?

Oh, Wizards and Chapin. So funny!

He doesn't take pain from Horizon Canopy because of Urborg.

The Steelers have first and goal at the Pats' seven!

They need to stop playing this match until they can fix this. Its unfair to both players if they can hear Randy and BDM discussing their plays and their hands. That or Randy/BDM need to stop talking about anything that isn't in play already and NOT about possible plays.

Accidentally dropping a card. lol
Chapin is awesome!

They need to stop playing this match until they can fix this. Its unfair to both players if they can hear Randy and BDM discussing their plays and their hands. That or Randy/BDM need to stop talking about anything that isn't in play already and NOT about possible plays.

i don't know if they could here because obviously they would mention something.

've playtested this matchup a lot today.
Uri's deck can hardly loose, at least Chapin the winnable game, the first

Even by my allowing to take back my choices with the Dragonstorm deck, trying to find the absolute best chances for it to win, its chances after board are really low, and he knows it.

Only the 2 Stupor to add to 4 Thoughtseize plus the Doran-4 turn clock is too much for dragonstorm to handle. But Uri has actually more..

That speaks a lot for Doran IMO

To Randy and Brian Try to talk a bit low because they can hear.

If wizards has cameras on multiple tables, what's to stop them from recording both Semi-Finals? I'd still watch one without commentary.

There's an idea: Have 2-4 different commentating teams and 2-4 live feeds. Watch whatever match you're most interested in at the time, then watch the replays with full commentary later in the week.

Or you don't need the 2-4 live feeds. Make one match live as the Feature Match, then when it gets done switch to another commentating team for "extra coverage."

RANDY!!! STOP TALKING!!!! THE PLAYERS CAN HEAR YOU!!!

so the judge wouldn't let him flip it? that would have been a really good play. could've given him a huge edge against uri, who looks really nervous.

Nice now you are talking like Golf commentators. Thanks guys.

RANDY!!! STOP TALKING!!!! THE PLAYERS CAN HEAR YOU!!!

That can be solved by simply moving them into another room away from the floor with just the webcast and on-the-floor reporters for reference. They don't need to be directly on top of the action to know what's going on.

i often find that randy and BDM are so simple minded. why would he bring in nath!? it comes online on turn 6. it's just not that good here.

i don't know if they could here because obviously they would mention something.

Chapin said he could at the end of game one.

I don't think 4 lands off the knoll is too bad in the sense that it removes non-gas cards from the top of his deck

Chapin said he could at the end of game one.

yeah , that's what i heard, but i don't know why anyone didn't respond, that just seems weird. he said it and no one even said anything...

You can still hear the echo in the webcast. The players can still hear the Randy and BDM talk. I would be REALLY upset if I was in the world championship finals and the commentators were telling my opponent what was in my hand.

Your wrong about the warhammer it doesn't do anything extra with doran because you deal damage with the butt so +3/+0 adds zero extra damage.

Warhammer+Doran is still five damage from that guy. Increasing power by three doesn't do anything when you're assigning toughness as damage.

Lifelink yes, eight no, mirite?

EDIT: Damn, beaten to the punch, and Randy realized it on-cast too.

You can still hear the echo in the webcast. The players can still hear the Randy and BDM talk. I would be REALLY upset if I was in the world championship finals and the commentators were telling my opponent what was in my hand.

i really don't see how this could possibly be true. the are WotC people on the floor that would alert randy and BDM.

+3/+0 Nonbo

I believe the term is bombo.

Yah I'm pretty sure Doran + Warhammer is a bombo.

That would be why Uri only gained 5 instead of 8.

Warhammer pump +3+0 but you assign damage with toughness is only 5 damage.

He doesn't deal much damage, but he does gain life, which is relevant.

not just life gain.. trample too.

Damage is dealt by toughness instead of power, so Warhammer's +3/+0 doesn't help to increase the damage, but lifelink against Dragonstorm is good, and the trample helps even more if Pat goes for Empty the Warrens.

Yah I'm pretty sure Doran + Warhammer is a bombo.

randy is just being wrong. the life was right.

That would be why Uri only gained 5 instead of 8.Gotta love how they know what they're doing on the floor and the guys in the booth don't.

Not that I really hold it against 'em.

Warhammer GAINS LIFE. That's pretty relevant against Chapin's deck.

Was it really that hard to figure out that +3/+0 from Warhammer does practically nothing when Doran's out?

Kinda wondering why they keep talking about the life totals being updated, even though we can't see it on the feed. Usually the life totals are there, but I haven't been seeing them lately, now that I think about it....where are the life totals at?

I can't believe they just spent 3 minutes talking about a ruling that would be obvious in 3 seconds if they just looked at the life totals.

Kinda wondering why they keep talking about the life totals being updated, even though we can't see it on the feed. Usually the life totals are there, but I haven't been seeing them lately, now that I think about it....where are the life totals at?

the life totals are on my feed...

the life totals are on my feed...
Really? That's weird. Are you on WMP or Quicktime? I'm on WMP, and I don't see the life totals at the bottom.

Really? That's weird. Are you on WMP or Quicktime? I'm on WMP, and I don't see the life totals at the bottom.

i'm on wmp too...
EDIT: now mine is gone, it was there when you posted the first time.

I'm on WMP and I've had the life totals the whole time. On that note it showed the correct ones right away, not to mention BDM and Buehler missed Chapin saying "so you go to 25?" or something to that effect.

Really? That's weird. Are you on WMP or Quicktime? I'm on WMP, and I don't see the life totals at the bottom.

The life totals are not in the video feed. They are in the launcher window which has the auto-card display.

EDIT: Never mind. The launcher window just shows the match score (1 game - 1 game).

dragon during combat seems WAY better. Shriekmaw is a sorcery so it would do nothing during combat and pat takes out both elves and blocks and trades with doran and still has burn for a Shriekmaw seems poor to cast empty that turn.

the dragon would have been the better play as you can't evoke the shriekmaw in the middle of combat.. which could wipe doran, the elves AND the treetop.

QT shows life totals on the bottom.

I can't believe they were like "Doran deals 8 damage!" when both players had acknowledged that Chapin takes 5 and Uri gains 5 life.

He couldn't cast the dragon without rite

I didn't count Chapin's mana, but didn't he need the rite to play it? Because that would make the combat idea impossible.

EDIT: someone beat me to it

What's the YMG shuffle?

"You ever think of trying 66 cards?" Love it.

I tend to like and favor a victory from the israelian
He's not trash talking in anyway, he's very humble, and what's more he has a very much better deck

Ah, there's the life totals at the bottom. Huzzah. :)

did peleg use that first turn gemstone mine 4 times or did i miss something game 2?

did peleg use that first turn gemstone mine 4 times or did i miss something game 2?
Urborg let him tap it without removing a counter, I believe.

chapin isn't trash talking, he's just talking. in many ways that makes it more comfortable for uri, actually. however, i like chapin because he knows how to get small advantages w/o cheating, like the card flip trick. he made sure to ask the judge first.

Yes you missed Urborg

(it makes all la,ds Swamps, that means they can tap for black without losing any counter
)

You can hear the echo again. I really hope the players are not hearing the commentary.

Hearing the echoes again. Would be embarassingly hilarious if the players can hear them once more.

wtf? my audio just went out

did anybody else just lose sound?

Did the sound go out?

Sound just cut out.

And by echoes, obviously I meant complete silence.

Awesome broadcast all around!

Fun games, though. :)

especially because randy was just talking about uri's horizon canopy strategy...
YAY FOR SILENCE!

Please fix this.

Thanks.

Sound back!

Sound is back.

ah, sound back. happiness

you know, i didn't mind no sound. i'm a decent enough player to follow a game ;) and randy is aweful and BDM is mediocre.

its amusing watching people repeat other people... twelve times in a row.

its amusing watching people repeat other people... twelve times in a row.

if you look at the time they posted, it's all at the same time. when they post the other post wasn't there is why.

PChapin with a baby Saitou slap!

Double Riftsweeper was brutal.

chapin shouldn't have put on a big show. if he hadn't shown uri he couldn't win, uri might, just might, forget about pendelhaven. chapin probably shouldnt've scooped.

A warning for slow play? Come on, give the players a little slack. It is the finals of the world championship. The match is not even timed.

Did I hear well ?
Pat received a warning for slow play ?

That sounds amazing, he juste considered his options in a quite desperate situation, and had some reasons to try to trick Uri in playing badly

Yeah, I completely don't understand that slow play warning. He was not going particularly slow.

lol.z at slow play....it's the world championship man!
he had all the right right to think through everything.

that would've been better had he actually just cast the dragon and hoped for uri forgetting about pendlehaven.

how come they can't just use chess clocks?

Didn't a relative "Suicide Brown" deck go back to back?

Kai with red
Finkel with blue

anyone know why magic doesn't use a chess type clock in matches? would games really run longer because of this?

Seems incredibly tough to use a chess clock properly in real life, considering players don't go through phases and steps in the same way that Magic Online necessitates.

oh wow uri sided in cloudthresher. oh jeez.

Uri 3-1? 3 dragons in hand is pretty bad...

Those Riftsweepers have been brutal, but Chapin's draws haven't been that great. The danger of playing combo...

Uri 3-1? 3 dragons in hand is pretty bad...

i would agree with you.